best to try the oil shocks as hot shocks said these friction shocks are rubbish ..even after modification .just my 2 cents .

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Grocery Getter

Posted May 16, 2008 05:53 AM Hide Post
loulou i have made boath these type,s of shocks.and imo they are boath very poor .as some of the guys have said they are not shocks just springs with a bolt through.very poor. you need oil shocks .i know they can be expensive but they are worth the money ...take a look at this link....
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Grocery Getter

Posted May 16, 2008 08:54 AM Hide Post
thanks loulou i understand that these spring shocks give flex but because they have no central piston .they give no damping force .there fore the chassie will just bounce around on the spring . thanks ...

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I agree that an oil shock is better than just a spring .. but is there on the market, oil shocks to work properly on the kind of crawler that we want ..

YELLOW-CRAWLER has a flex 9 "1/2, and crawler 1/6 to have as much .

I am a novice in this area ..

An oil shock, would there a good job with a large flex ?


Shock At long stem .. (( LOULOU ))



FLAPDING SHOCKS ................



My R/Cs ....
ALL MODS on my LAND ROVER 1/6 ..

http://rcboards.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8401055751/m/7021093505

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I will have to thing about this shocks.
I gave stronger springs to my rear shocks and it's more better, I made new mods only in rear suspension, becouse I don't want to find new place for my servo again
Here's some pics:

THANK .. JACOB S .. for these pics ..

Put the axe out of his cage, is a very good idea .. you keep these shocks a long stem, or you have other projects to these shocks ?

the axis of the front, that made you with?

My R/Cs ....
ALL MODS on my LAND ROVER 1/6 ..

http://rcboards.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8401055751/m/7021093505

every shock has a long stem made by nail (I bought the longest in the shop)
sorry but I can't understand these words

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the axis of the front, that made you with?

is it second question or the end of the first

JACOB S .. I wonder if you have a solution for the front axis ..


My R/Cs ....
ALL MODS on my LAND ROVER 1/6 ..

http://rcboards.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8401055751/m/7021093505

I made the pivot, and I put servo on the axle. one problem was with the lenght of the cables of servo but I was lucky. If I would like to take out of the cage front axle I should make longer cables, but I don't know how I can change the directions, there's no place. I turn the pilot

To change the direction of the motor ( SERVO ), reversed the cables + / - ..( SERVO )

You say that there is no place to put the servo motor on the axis?

Nice work Jacob S,looks like you have plenty of flex

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Originally posted by loulou:
I agree that an oil shock is better than just a spring .. but is there on the market, oil shocks to work properly on the kind of crawler that we want ..

YELLOW-CRAWLER has a flex 9 "1/2, and crawler 1/6 to have as much .

I am a novice in this area ..

An oil shock, would there a good job with a large flex ?


Shock At long stem .. (( LOULOU ))

My understanding,,,,,, how can you get long enough extension out of an oil shock, Correct?
make a pivot / extension under the oil shock to do the same as the flapding style works.
Only thing would be on the rise of motion till the pivot /extension is at is farthest point, for instance; Shock will have no play on the uprising of motion / extension just like the flapding does. So you either have to use a tether strap, or better yet a shock absorber to slow the rise down.

Problem with the Newbrights suspension, They use the shock/spring as a suspension link.

For those that are big on flex, A 4-link with the shocks mounted on the lower 2 links will give more flex,wile also keeping force on that link, Most likely until it is at full range.

A mustangs suspension like mine is kinda setup this way. But,, Only the spring is on the lower link to frame, for load and ride hight. the shock absorber is connected from frame to axle, extension and compression.

wayne,s has the right idea if brackets are made you can use any oil shocks . i purchase, my shocks from traxxas they have a large selection .and i have lots of articulation.these are fitted to my nylint.thanks .

LOULOU there is place to put servo but with bad directions. there's no place to turn servo saver, If I could do this I would have good directions.
electronic is for me to dificult, there's a lot of cables so how can I find + and -?

thanks COBRA98 I want to make my landrover to crawler.
LOULOU, here's pics of front pivot and servo:




I know that's not profesional but it works

jacob,s i love your work it is very good . here is a pic of the positive and negative wires you just need to reverse them ..

thank you very much

WAYNE S, ...THANKS for these explanations ..

I will receive my oil shocks very soon (I hope) and their installation will be on LAND ROVER ..

I think I did not build a crawler with this LAND ROVER .. I could only build rear flex, this would help the LAND ROVER, some obstacle to climb more easily ..

I really the idea of getting the JEEP 1/6, into a crawler .. but if I chande idea, I put all my energy to change the LAND ROVER a crawler ..
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The gearing will be surely lowered (its speed is too fast)..

The system of flex (JACOB S) must be installed (front / rear)..

Lowered the body (if possible)..

Resolve the problem of (CUTOUT), which stops the LAND ROVER several times when it is hot (for climbing, this is not a very good system) ..

Therefore, I monitors and examines the work of JACOB S .. All these information will be useful in time and place ..

THANK .. JACOB S .. for these pics ..

If I understood it, there is a place for the installation of servo motor .. but this installation, place the servo motor in a position contrary to that he held before .. therefore we must reverse the wire of the motor + / - ..

I will await the results of the operation of servo direction .. and behaviour of the crawler on the rock .. or some other obstacles ..

THANK .. JACOB S .. us know your work on your LAND ROVER ..

My R/Cs ....
ALL MODS on my LAND ROVER 1/6 ..
http://rcboards.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8401055751/m/7021093505

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Originally posted by iceman2:
jacob,s i love your work it is very good . here is a pic of the positive and negative wires you just need to reverse them ..

You guys have 3 wires so you would have almost full control of a hobby grade servo. You would have full control if the trim was or Is on the radio.

3 wires go to the pot, 2 wires go to the motor.
Inside a hobby grade servo is 5 wires.

I have a trim on the radio and I tried to use it. but nothing happened. What should I do?
I really don't know anything about electronics

Hi guys, I have a problem with servo, sometimes it sounds strange and I think it will be broken. I found something like this:

It's very strong and has metal gears, but you can see that there's only free wires. My servo has a lot of wires. Is it possible to connect new servo, will it work?

this servo you show is a hobby servo .and it is not possible to fit this to your landrover unless you change the hole electrical system to hobby grade.