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Extreme Rockcrawler
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Okay, so many of you are familiar with my "A High Tech Approach" post. I started thinking about how annoying the limiting straps are 'cause after all, they LIMIT. I wasn't getting the full stroke of my custom shocks so I came up with this telescoping (again) axle-anti-roll-under system. It bottoms out one direction ending the rear axle rolling under due to excessive droop, but has no limitation on suspension compression or droop of one wheel at a a time. You can see it up close here.

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Extreme Rockcrawler
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You can see here how it has NO impact on suspension action.

 
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That combined with a ditched "spare" and my pimped out aluminum rear bumper really cleaned up the looks of the back end.

 
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Grocery Getter
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That looks amazing...Personally as of now i dont have access to a CNC machine or Lathe. So i just took out all the springs per shock and the top shock mount. She flexes better. Idk what to do about these flares though, they keep getting in the way but i dont wanna hack em up.Roll Eyes


The stubble says it all...It's a JEEP thing...

 
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Grocery Getter
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man Flapding your ridiculous....in a good way of course....sheesh Smile
 
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Grocery Getter
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So whats next, how about a 6 disc cd changer and some subwoofers?
Roll Eyes Razz


The stubble says it all...It's a JEEP thing...

 
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Grocery Getter
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Ok 2 things.....

1. I'd really like to see close-ups of the shocks and how they work.

2. Ever think of making these in mass quantities? I mean start a online store here and sell these items you have made. They will sell. I for one would take 4 shocks, 2 axles retainers and a anti-axle-wrap-roll-thingy.
 
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Extreme Rockcrawler
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I appreciate the respect and interest in my ideas but I think the real spirit of this forum is to share ideas, not sell them. If you spend about $15.00 at MSC Industrial on some 3/16 .035 wall tubing and 1/8 drill rod or even mild steel, you can convert the stock shocks to this telescoping design. If anyone is serious about doing this I will draw up an assembly detail and post it. The axle retainers can be made with sheet metal and tin snips, or a bandsaw, or hacksaw, or sharp teeth, you get the idea Smile My first draft was a little strip of galvanized steel, two zip ties and a chunk of old shock spring from another RC, nothing fancy but it worked just like the fancy aluminum ones I'm using now. In my past and less equipped days I've made taps out of allen bolts, dies out of stainless nuts, lathes out of hand drills etc. I'm not showing the parts I machine to be a braggart, I just want to share some possibilities for the hobby. My personal goal is to turn this "toy" as many have called it, into a serious hobby quality roller. I am a bit of a fanatic, but I know you guys could pull off similar results without a machine shop. These pages are filled with wicked ideas. Take bits from each, decide what you like best, then get after it!
 
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Grocery Getter
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Seriously FlapDing, your my hero!
Rockcrawler


The stubble says it all...It's a JEEP thing...

 
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Flapding, I am interested in your assembly detail of the telescoping shock piece. Please post some details w/pictures on these mods.
 
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Originally posted by 4willdrive:
Flapding, I am interested in your assembly detail of the telescoping shock piece. Please post some details w/pictures on these mods.

I second this. You really have outdone yourself here, and I'm pretty amazed with it all. I'd like to try it myself, and a guide would be excellent!
 
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Grocery Getter
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I 3rd, 4th and 5th that
 
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Extreme Rockcrawler
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Here's how to mod your stock shocks. You will need 3/16 .035 wall tubing, 1/8 drill rod, epoxy and some drills and a tap. If you combine this with an axle center spring support (look REAL close at my other posts and you can see the springs under the axle fulcrum) you will get crazy suspension action without chopping the body. Have fun!

 
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thats good thinking to bad i upgraded to TRAXXAS oil shocks Smile


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87 suzuki samurai, rear spool, spoa, R.U.F, cj springs in the rear w/ goofys, front revolvers, 3" body lift 31s mts, 5:14.1 tcase gears
 
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Extreme Rockcrawler
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Update on these...

If you use 3/16 brake line for the body part of the shock, the 1/8 telescoping part slips right in without reaming or drilling the tubing. It's also much cheaper than the mail order industrial stuff. This is what I used for my son's shocks (see "Flapding Shock Special").

Also if doing this yourself, don't forget that the upper shock sleeve will have to be drilled out to about .195 to accomodate the larger shaft.
 
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I plan on doing this. Just one quick question, Flapding. How long did you make each of the pieces (the tubing and the 1/8 rod?)
 
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Hi,

can anyone toss some measurements that they used for this - I thought the "great" diagram was to scale, until I printed it off and matched parts off of the jeep............ ( or is it a freestyle event Smile )

thanks ! !
 
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maybe my bad ?? - is the diagram to scale ? - sorry bout that if I missed it Frown
 
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got 'em
 
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I havent modified my shocks yet so I my not be understanding the axle roll problem right. But it seems like with these shocks (they look like they work amazing) are having too much travel, hence the need for the limiting straps. The chains and everything look like they work too, but i know some people probably dont like the look of them, i really like flapdings solution for this. If im understanding the problem right, i think i might have found another method to limit the axle. Im not sure if it is possible because i have not been able to try it out yet, hopefully in the next two weeks. I made some new lines in flapings diagram. What I thought up was that you can take the large tube (outer tube) in flapdings shock design and cut slots in it. 180 apart from each other. The red line in the picture. Then drill a hole in the inner shock tube(green dot) corresponding with the slot in the outer tube. When the shock is put together place a pin the the hole you drilled (green dot) that fits in inner tube tighly but slides in the outer shock tube.(make this pin removable) That would limit the travel and eliminate the need for the limiting straps. The only thing im not sure of, is that if the inner shock tube spins slightly when articulating. Let me know what you think about this. I would like to try it when i finally get my hands on a lr3 thats waiting back at home for me.

 
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