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im doing a term paper on bead locks so any info on them and why they are not street legal i would really apreciate it thanks
 
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Go to colorado4x4.org and search for beadlocks and their legality. You will find lots of conversation about it there.


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thank you
 
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in my opinion i think they're better but if a couple beeds come off, just think where will your brain be?
 
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Huh?


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Originally posted by ZJzeejayZJ:
in my opinion i think they're better but if a couple beeds come off, just think where will your brain be?


Dude, back away from the computer, nice and slow. Come back when you sober up, lol! Razz


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Originally posted by ZJzeejayZJ:
in my opinion i think they're better but if a couple beeds come off, just think where will your brain be?

No no ... Not beads in your dreadlocks. Beadlock wheels Big Grin
 
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It may have to do with the fact that you've bolted two pieces of rim together with a bunch of bolts. These two piece rims and all of their nuts an bolts suffer from the constant pressures brought on by continuous highway speeds.

The angencies like the National Transportation Safety Agency must think that one solid piece rim is safer than this bolted together two piece setup (which by the way was engineered for slower speeds).

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Beadlocks have NEVER proven to be illegal. To this point it is ALL rumor and hearsay. NO ONE has EVER been able to come forward in ANY state so far and show us the actuall State/local statute that an officer can write you for a beadlock. Big Grin

Yes, they do not meet the DOT regulation in SOME cases, not all. There may be 1-2 officers in the nation that know what it is and why. Big Grin

Before you speculate, or pass on more hearsay. Do some research and find us some FACTS! Big Grin

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Serenity Now!
Lose the anger man.
The "hearsay" that you rage about probably comes from the fact that beadlock's don't have a DOT approval stamp on them like street legal tires and rims do.
Nothing to blow a vein over. Not really worth having a heart attack.
People can still have their oppinions, right or wrong.
ohhhhmmmmmmmm

p.s. breath man breath


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There was no anger in it at all... I went back and put some Big Grin Big Grin in it for you Wink Hope that makes it better.

And FWIW many of the beadlocks out there have a DOT stamp on them. (because they had it before being turned into beadlocks Big Grin) Do you know where most of those DOT stamps are located? They are INSIDE the rim. So there is no way an officer could check them even if they had a law they could cite you for.


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So by your logic I could tie my neighbor up by his b4lls and drag him down the street behind my Jeep. I mean "NO ONE has EVER been able to come forward in ANY state so far and show us the actuall State/local statute that an officer can write you for a.." abusing your neighbors nut sack. Razz Razz Razz


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Originally posted by Xtremjeepn:
NO ONE has EVER been able to come forward in ANY state so far and show us the actuall State/local statute that an officer can write you for a....

Before you speculate, or pass on more hearsay. Do some research and find us some FACTS! Big Grin


Those DOT stamps are no longer valid once you cut the rim in half.


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A) Abusing your neighbors nutsack is "assult". Eek Not a apples to apples comparison at all.

B) I never said the DOT stamp was still valid, just there. So for anyone that does not know the rim has been changed...they still see a DOT stamp (if they happen to be inside your tire Wink)


As a police officer for 9 years I can tell you that 99% of cops don't know what a beadlock is. If they do they probably own them. It would be impossible to identify a real beadlock from the fake "streetlocks" they sell all over the nation at Discount tire without taking the wheel apart. Other than having more bolts, my Allied beadlocks look just like the fake beadlocks. I have been daily driving those beadlocks for nearly 60,000 miles. No one even notices or asks.


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Originally posted by Xtremjeepn:
As a police officer for 9 years I can tell you that 99% of cops don't know what a beadlock is. .......... No one even notices or asks.


Good god man, if you were a cop (not a rent a cop) then you should know better! Ignorance of the law is no excuse. You can't just do what you want because no one can prove you're wrong. Look, we are off-road enthusiasts, not traffic enforcement litigators. Just because we can't site specific legal precedence doesn't mean it's not so.

Each state has in it's uniform code (with regard to traffic safety) rules for using only DOT approved tires and rims. So the fact there is no reference specifically to bead locks means nothing, it's covered. (oh yeah, just like in my apples to apples comparison) Razz


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It's NOT covered. That is the point. No one has yet (including yourself) to come forward and actually show proof of illegality on the subject. It is all hearsay.

There is no law on the books in Colorado that says you can't use a non-DOT wheel or other equipment on your car. Many state are the same way. If there is no law, then it is NOT illegal. DOT is NOT a govening body that creates laws. DOT may create standards for things such as wheels. Which manufactures follow. But this does not make it a law. You need to see the difference.


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Originally posted by Xtremjeepn:
..... You need to see the difference.


Man you need to seek professional help, and soon before you hurt someone. You have real anger issues.

You have not proved that it is legal, but you evidently don't have to. You just do what you want as long as no one catches you. Well, motor on man.


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Well, dang it! I'll have to side with Cole. (at least for now)
I downloaded the entire Michigan Vehicle Code and read through code section 710 (in its entirety) and in the state of Michigan it is NOT ILLEGAL to run bead locks. You are right Cole, at least in Michigan it is not illegal to run one piece, two or three or four piece rims. Heck you can even run bias, radial or whatever tires on the street, as long as they don't state "for racing only", "offroad use only" or the like. There was no mention of "must comply with DOT standards" anywhere in the document.

p.s. I did send an email to the legislative branch of the Michigan gov. We'll see what they say.


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Oh yeah, sorry I rode you so hard. Wink


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Hey, why not throw money instead of words?

Get some of these bad boyz from Rock Monster Wheels

For a mere $400 **each**! (bling bling!)

And they're DOT approved! (ducking & running) Wink

(yes, I'm just teasing you both - in the most supportive & positive way)

BlackJack
 
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And they're DOT approved! (ducking & running) Wink

(yes, I'm just teasing you both - in the most supportive & positive way)

BlackJack


Big Grin hehehe

Cool rims, but I'm a cheap steel rim guy. Then I don't have to cry when I bend or break them.


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